Lando Norris, McLaren, Hockenheimring, 2019

McLaren: Battery problem cost Norris Q2 place

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In the round-up: McLaren reveal Lando Norris had a problem with his battery pack in Q1.

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McLaren team principal Andreas Seidl revealed a problem which contributed to Norris missing a place in Q2 by 0.055 seconds.

I think it’s also important to mention because we didn’t report it yet, in all fairness to Lando, it’s nice that he’s self-critical which is great to see in his character, but we also had an issue with the battery pack in qualifying on his car. So we lost one tenth by that, which should have been enough to progress to quali two. And then maybe it would have been a different story. But I think it’s important to mention.

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Will Power, Penske, Mid-Ohio, IndyCar, 2019
Will Power, Penske, Mid-Ohio, IndyCar, 2019

Will Power, who started the first two IndyCar races of the season from pole position, claimed the top spot for the third time this year at Mid-Ohio yesterday. He is still looking for his first win of the season.

Alexander Rossi lines up second aheda of Power’s Penske team mates Josef Newgarden and Simon Pagenaud. Sebastien Bourdais and Felix Rosenqvist share the third row.

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Yesterday was one to forget for the red team:

Ferrari are an embarrassment. This isn’t bad luck or misfortune, it’s pure incompetence. And as a fan of the sport, it’s excruciating.
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  • 32 comments on “McLaren: Battery problem cost Norris Q2 place”

    1. I know this is not the right place but I also know that more of you will see it here.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/27/bahrain-executes-three-people-despite-human-rights-outcry

      Still racing in Bahrain. Lovely.

      1. But they are just there to race, not for political reasons so it’s okay 🙄 everyone involved sold their soul to the highest bidder.

        How Hamilton can feel so good about being a vegetarian while standing and respecting the flag of a government that commits acts like this is a joke. Unfair to single him out but it’s just the easiest example of the shining hypocrisy.

        1. Yes, well it’s not like the British flag isn’t bloodred of genocide, rape, theft, illegal occupation and centuries of scandalous imperialism. Long live the Queen hey?

          1. You are forgetting ethnic cleansing and slavery apart all the other things mentioned.

          2. And just this year the England government tortured someone to confess to crimes and summarily executed them without trial?

            I’m not going to stand by the history of any country, or the human race, we have a bloody, war-faring history and commit atrocities regularly on the whole. But what we can do is uphold those we associate with and promote to the standard we want to live by. Something Formula 1 and the FIA are failing at miserably.

            1. @skipgamer, the British government does stand accused of effectively “offshoring” the process of torturing suspects, as whilst the British government might not have directly tortured prisoners within the UK, there have been successful lawsuits against the British government, and also examples of the British government settling cases out of court, for being complicit in sending individuals abroad to other regimes where they knew that they would be tortured for information (such as the case of Khadija al Saadi, where the British government helped send a critic of the Gaddafi regime back to Libya to be tortured by Gaddafi’s secret police).

              There are, in fact, ongoing criminal cases which have been filed against the British government over such treatment, and in several cases the British government stands accused of having their own intelligence officers take part in those interrogations, knowing that torture was taking place, or even helping to deliver them to those torture centres in the first place in order to have information extracted from them for the benefit of the British government.

              Similarly, only last year the British government was criticised by the review board for their international aid funding, as they uncovered evidence suggesting that the British government was directing funds towards training Bahrain’s secret police (under the guise of “security training”) and has been accelerating the sales of weapons and dual-use equipment to the Bahraini government.

              Now, the UK is by no means unique in providing financial or technical support to repressive regimes – it does, however, create a bit more of an ambiguous moral situation when, whilst not directly participating in those activities, associate themselves with regimes that do participate in such acts.

            2. It’s leaps and bounds apart – 15 years ago rogue operations in agencies of which the government is embarrassed and pays out millions of dollars in settlement. Compared to torturing and ending a life on mere suspicion. Not even remotely comparable.

          3. If we are all guilty because of our ancestors’ crimes then we are all murderers. Everybody. Things are happening in bahrain now. Brits did its evil things before most of people here were even born.

            1. @socksolid That’s just BS, I’m sorry. Besides, if you really wanna go that way you might take a closer look at what Britain is doing right this moment in all sorts of places in the world.

              To be fair, the cognitive construct of the nation-state (because that’s all it really is) and the subsequent illusion of national (and cultural) identity is a farce designed to divide and conquer that, after thousands of years of evolution, we still haven’t grown out of. It’s all rather silly, really.

              @skipgamer
              @skipgamer
              @shimks

      2. I think sport organizations (FIA, FIFA, ICC, etc.) should just take a steer from the appropriate UN body (UNESCO?) in terms of whether they should steer clear of any specific country or continue to host events in said country/allow that country to participate on the grounds of political factors.

        If we’re going to cherry-pick news to paint particular countries in a poor light, then there’ll be no end to it, simply because every country’s flag is stained blood red. Yours, mine, our neighbours. It goes on.

        The UN itself acknowledges sport as one means of fostering/improving relations.

        1. To clarify, the reason I brought up the UN is to ensure that there is a consistent and external worldwide ruleset being applied to participation, instead of individual sports’ governing bodies having to make that decision themselves, which can be subject to bias in the case of said sport’s growth goals.

          1. UN is no better than those organisations you mentioned, Ban Ki-Moon(head of UN 4 years back) had shed tears when a terrorist was given capital punishment in India as apparently capital punishment is “cruel and inhumane”. So it turns out the innocent people murdered by terrorists is a peaceful act according to UN.

            And talking of villains for us Indians, Winston Churchill is a genocidal maniac far worse than Hitler. During WW2 he committed genocide of 3 Million Indians. This particular quote of Churchill always comes to mind when Brits glorify that maniac:

            “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilized tribes… it would spread a lively terror.” — Churchill on the use of gas in the Middle East and India

        2. It’s not a bad idea, but I don’t think it’s really practical. It’s would essentially be a sanction which is more of a punishment than anything and as you say, if you start pointing fingers at them then where does the line get drawn for others.

          Whoevers doing the wheeling and dealing for F1 (Bratches?) however has a lot to say for who gets a Grand Prix and what their reason is for hosting one. But hey, they can happily pretend politics has nothing to do with it.

          1. Not to mention that one only has to look at who currently sit in at the human rights commission of the UN (Last i looked, it currently includes the champions of human rights Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Eritrea, Egypt, Cuba, Qatar and the Democratic Republic of Congo …).

            So while I agree with the principle of what you say @phylyp, for now I have to agree with @skipgamer that this probably wouldn’t work.

      3. You are right, this is not the right place.

      4. @shimks Still racing in Bahrain. Lovely.

        Thank God 🤣

    2. Por Lewis, struggling to pole position. Give that man something to cheer him up, he’s suffering so.much!

      1. If you read article quote is from Valtteri…

      2. @fer-no65
        The quote you’re referring to is Bottas’, not Hamilton’s. Yeah, the careless juxtaposition of quote and title make it seem otherwise. On the other hand, it doesn’t hurt to read an article before commenting on it.

        1. You’re right. I admit my mistake. But it wouldn’t kill to put a proper reference in that quote…

          I have to say it happens too often, if you’re going to put a highlight of an article, do it right.

    3. pastaman (@)
      28th July 2019, 2:17

      Worst CotD ever? How about something with substance.

      1. Yeah, sounds like a facebook comment. Embarrassment to whom? It’s hardly incompetence, they definitely have a lot of competent people working there, mistakes happen. And fan of the sport? Sounds more like a salty Ferrari fan.

        Not much to aspire to with regards to commenting standards if that’s the best of the day. Would be worth skipping the feature in the future rather than feature a comment like that.

      2. Yeah, pretty pathetic isn’t it? I mean, the comment itself is rather unremarkable. Not great, but not terrible either. But elevating it to CotD? That’s just really, really low. Can’t say I’m too surprised, though.

        1. Nevertheless, Ferrari mess up way too often to call it bad luck, whether it is the team messing up or Vettel. And today they basically robbed us from seeing Mercedes being challenged. AGAIN.

          I totally agree it is excruciating. The collective frustration with the Scuderia among fans of F1, fans of racing and competition in general, to me, warrants this comment being CoTD.

          1. I totally agree it is excruciating. The collective frustration with the Scuderia among fans of F1, fans of racing and competition in general, to me, warrants this comment being CoTD.

            @jeffreyj – Big +1 to this. CotD might not be verbose, or though-provoking, but it sums up our frustration. The Scud is a dud.

            1. They’re not really though. They’re still second best, and have held that position for a long time. People compete in F1 to compete with Ferrari and in a way, seeing them being beaten is a better thing than not. It’s not as if they’ve done a Williams and capitulated.

              Mistakes aren’t happening every single week, their car isn’t intrinsically broken. The entitlement of being “robbed” of seeing a contest is ridiculous, we’re going to get to see them work through the field and a good chance to see more Leclerc v Verstappen. F1 is more than just the on track action. Everything has to go right to be the best.

            2. People compete in F1 to compete with Ferrari

              My concern is that Ferrari seem to also follow this myth, that they’re there to be the target to be beaten, and not be the competitor doing the beating.

              Look at RBR – they know who their target it, it is Mercedes in this era. They’re not messing about with romantic notions of beating the Scuderia. They want to beat the best, be the best. If Horner were to ask Marko or Mateschitz for $100 million to build a state of the art facility to beat Ferrari, they’d give him short shrift. They’ve set their sights on Mercedes.

              Mercedes executed on a multi-year plan in their ascendancy to the top, RBR are likewise running multi-year plans to compete (PU supplier changes, drivers, etc.). Ferrari seem to only be capable of short-sightedly running a 2-3 year plan with a single TP, before they get frustrated/emotional, and shuffle up the sandbox (wrecking a partly built castle in the process).

              I know Toto himself has mentioned “beating Ferrari” verbatim, but him saying it doesn’t make it true. Mercedes’ portfolio is far wider than Ferrari, and their aims and benefits of being in F1 might partly include Ferrari, but it’d be wrong to say it’s the guiding principle.

        2. Yeah idk entirely how it got comment of the day either. I just wanted to write something quickly as I couldn’t really be bothered to write a long comment. That said, I don’t think a comment necessarily needs to have loads of substance to be considered a ‘good’ comment, I could’ve written a long comment that would basically summarise to what I ended up posting.
          Also, to whom it may concern, I’m actually a McLaren fan, as my profile reflects. Not a ‘salty Ferrari fan’ at all.

          1. I didn’t say you were, just that the comment sounded like it came from one.

    4. I couldn’t really agree more with the COTD, but Sean Kelly’s tweet, though.

    5. the love for seb here is surreal, everyone’s cheering and clapping when he drives by

      It’s a slow clap though.

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