Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Montreal, 2011

Vettel fastest as red flag flies again

2011 Canadian Grand Prix practice

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Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Montreal, 2011
Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Montreal, 2011

The final practice session at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve saw another red flag interruption.

This time it came after the session had already finished – Sauber stand-in Pedro de la Rosa crashing where team mate Kamui Kobayashi did yesterday.

He did so shortly after Sebastian Vettel set a fastest lap of 1’13.381 to lead the session.

But his team mate Mark Webber never made it out of the pits as Red Bull face yet another problem with their Kinetic Energy Recovery System.

Fernando Alonso was second on a 1’13.701, two-tenths of a second faster than Nico Rosberg with the other Ferrari of Felipe Massa close behind.

The two McLarens were fifth and sixth, Jenson Button in front of Lewis Hamilton.

Pos.CarDriverCarBest lapGap
11Sebastian VettelRed Bull-Renault1’13.38121
25Fernando AlonsoFerrari1’13.7010.32021
38Nico RosbergMercedes1’13.9190.53829
46Felipe MassaFerrari1’13.9560.57520
54Jenson ButtonMcLaren-Mercedes1’14.3350.95418
63Lewis HamiltonMcLaren-Mercedes1’14.4691.08816
77Michael SchumacherMercedes1’14.4881.10723
810Vitaly PetrovRenault1’14.9171.53623
914Adrian SutilForce India-Mercedes1’15.2171.83618
1015Paul di RestaForce India-Mercedes1’15.2431.86217
1112Pastor MaldonadoWilliams-Cosworth1’15.3121.93119
129Nick HeidfeldRenault1’15.3501.96922
1318Sebastien BuemiToro Rosso-Ferrari1’16.1382.75717
1419Jaime AlguersuariToro Rosso-Ferrari1’16.1452.76419
1516Kamui KobayashiSauber-Ferrari1’16.2362.85521
1611Rubens BarrichelloWilliams-Cosworth1’16.4383.05721
1717Pedro de la RosaSauber-Ferrari1’16.7063.32522
1820Heikki KovalainenLotus-Renault1’17.0933.71221
1921Jarno TrulliLotus-Renault1’17.5234.14224
2023Vitantonio LiuzziHRT-Cosworth1’18.9105.52924
2124Timo GlockVirgin-Cosworth1’19.0735.69219
2222Narain KarthikeyanHRT-Cosworth1’19.2135.83222
2325Jerome d’AmbrosioVirgin-Cosworth1’20.4757.09419
242Mark WebberRed Bull-Renault0

Combined practice times

PosDriverCarFP1FP2FP3Total laps
1Sebastian VettelRed Bull-Renault1’18.8521’15.4761’13.38158
2Fernando AlonsoFerrari1’16.1391’15.1071’13.70182
3Nico RosbergMercedes1’15.5911’18.6011’13.91999
4Felipe MassaFerrari1’16.6581’15.6011’13.95679
5Jenson ButtonMcLaren-Mercedes1’16.6761’15.9891’14.33563
6Lewis HamiltonMcLaren-Mercedes1’16.8421’15.9771’14.46961
7Michael SchumacherMercedes1’16.5491’19.2091’14.48881
8Vitaly PetrovRenault1’18.5061’16.3241’14.91770
9Adrian SutilForce India-Mercedes1’16.9051’15.21734
10Paul di RestaForce India-Mercedes1’17.2941’16.0891’15.24377
11Pastor MaldonadoWilliams-Cosworth1’18.9321’16.9411’15.31278
12Nick HeidfeldRenault1’17.4451’16.4221’15.35082
13Mark WebberRed Bull-Renault1’17.8201’16.10258
14Sebastien BuemiToro Rosso-Ferrari1’17.0511’16.13849
15Jaime AlguersuariToro Rosso-Ferrari1’18.4581’17.6841’16.14584
16Kamui KobayashiSauber-Ferrari1’19.5771’17.7571’16.23667
17Rubens BarrichelloWilliams-Cosworth1’16.9901’16.6871’16.43877
18Pedro de la RosaSauber-Ferrari1’18.5361’16.70636
19Heikki KovalainenLotus-Renault1’19.4221’18.4821’17.09389
20Jarno TrulliLotus-Renault1’19.2741’18.4701’17.52386
21Nico H???lkenbergForce India-Mercedes1’17.54920
22Sergio PerezSauber-Ferrari1’17.66227
23Daniel RicciardoToro Rosso-Ferrari1’18.64835
24Vitantonio LiuzziHRT-Cosworth1’19.9601’20.2841’18.91078
25Timo GlockVirgin-Cosworth1’20.5201’19.8101’19.07365
26Narain KarthikeyanHRT-Cosworth1’20.8391’20.3111’19.21387
27Jerome d’AmbrosioVirgin-Cosworth1’19.8381’20.9221’20.47576

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37 comments on “Vettel fastest as red flag flies again”

  1. Please, No-Vettel-Pole. at least in Canada, it shouldn’t!

    1. Mclarens pace is disappointing..esp here where they are expected to shine

      looks like their race pace is top notch..but it will definitely compromise their race if they start fifth and sixth..

      Alonso is doing a monster job in the ferrari while i think NICO can spoil one or two top guys party..

      1. It looks as if Ferrari are ahead of McLaren, but I expect the gaps to become minimal by qualifying.

    2. Agree, but it is bound to happen unless we get rain.

      1. Any news on that rain Atticus?

  2. Vettel still looks to be the man to beat for pole position. Apparently the Red Bull KERS only puts out two thirds of the power that other KERS do!

    1. But it’s a net advantage due to the aerodynamic gain. I think It’s a smaller story than it is, buy because it’s RBR it’s going to become a huge thing.

      1. I meant ‘but’ not ‘buy’!

      2. Well, it’s a net advantage because Red Bull thought about what was more important for its car. Extra slipperiness or extra power?

        Webber isn’t working, so it’s possibly not a net advantage at all. :)

        1. This particular track and for webber, I agree.
          But they’ve proved that aerodynamics is v important which is why they beat teams with alledgedly more power week in-week out..

          Also, quick rant about ‘MERCEDES POWER’ every commentator goes on about. I believe all engines are about 760bhp. The max difference between power would be about 10bhp. People go on and on about it, as if mercedes’ engines are rocket powered!!
          It’s not on this article but look at the stats from yesterday’s free practice, Renault near top of speed charts. Heck, look at the top speed figures for every race this season! Renault engine. Maybe we should start talking about RENaULT POWER. The main difference between engines is the drivability. As Varro hello said two seasons ago.

          Rant over. :)

          1. I believe that the teams can measure individual engine power using some sort of audio device?

          2. well, engine souund reflects rev of engine but you never know power. power=rev*torque but you never know torque by sound.

          3. Yeah, on the engine power point. :D
            Actually last years Canada race was good example in areo v power for speed, because last year there was a Renault at the top of the speed trap charts and an RBR near the bottom. This year the Maccas are some of the slowest, Lewis in FP3 was actually second to last, while the Mercs and Indias are near the top.
            So conclusion – Its all about the areo. (At least in this competitive field, when the engines are similar spec and almost identical.)

          4. I agree with meteuss.

    2. I checked with the rules, and confirmed my thoughts, that that should mean that they could use the KERS system system unit system for 10 seconds, if the 40kW figure is accurate, because there is no time limit to it, just 400kJ per lap rule.
      But do they? Can their system handle 400kJ per lap, and is it just the throughput issue, or are they only recovering part of the potential limited kinetic energy?

      1. I thought that the maximum time allowed per lap for KERS to be used, regardless of output, was 6.6 seconds?

          1. that might actually be a bit of an advantage then!

  3. It looks like McLaren is little bit lost in their set up:

    Jenson:

    “… some area’s need to be improved on. But hopeful of pace.

    “…changes made overnight may not have been in the right direction so (we) will be studying the data and making changes…”

    “…Pirelli Tyre is an unknown in the race and so it could be a race decider…”

    1. But Hamilton looked and sounded like he was pretty happy with his pace, while he is behind Button – I still think they didn’t do real low fuel runs. I hope so, and that they can get within .3s of Vettel.

  4. Will Buxton just said its going to rain heavily soon.

    1. well, the virgins and HRT will be praying fro rain surely…their times look like on the edge of the 107%

      Keith tweeted that vettel’s slower tyre run would mean a 1.19.2 time to avoid 107%

      the slower HRT and virgin are outside that..

    2. Thanks for the update frs!

  5. As we have seen before, it’s possible that cars outside the 107% rule will be allowed to race anyway, if they have shown that they have put together some competitive lap times in the free practice sessions.

    1. these timings are the best timings they have got so far in the 3 practices..

      last race..they said the best time set by them in free practice was within 107% time of Q1..

      that will not hold this time sadly..

      1. But it wasn’t was it? I though HRT had a dreadful three practice sessions.

  6. supernicebob
    11th June 2011, 16:30

    Lots of red flags. I hope everyone will be ok.

  7. it`s not good for mclaren, i expect more from them, but it seems they compromise qualy… let`s what`s happens in the afternoon

    1. Younger Hamii
      11th June 2011, 16:50

      Personally and Notably,McLaren’s Quali Pace is Unknown or Just not as good as they expected BUT if they did Compromise Qualifying then thats really Smart but risky.Canada is Unpredictable,Anything can Happen,Lots of Safety Car Periods are very Likely.

      Concluding that Qualifying doesnt really matter at Canada.

  8. I hope the FP3 analysis will come up in time before qualifying. Always interesting to look into the difference in racepace

  9. If it does rain, anyone fancies a spin below that bridge in the braking zone of Turn 9 & 10 where Alesi & Co. messed it up in an identical way in 1990? :D

    (And DC in 1995 too.)

  10. was vettels lap time a new lap record ? as it says the current lap record is 1:13.622 – R Barrichello (2004)

    or it it only in a race that counts for the lap record ?

    1. that is race lap time. Fastest lap is pole by Ralf Schumacher at 1:12.275 (time from memory, sorry if not exactly correct)

    2. Only in a race.

  11. Poor, poor Webber! He must be so frustrated.

    Did anyone else hear the snippet from Ted Kravitz saying Red Bull only use a third of the KERS power that Ferrari and McLaren use?

    1. Well, I’ve heard many F1 men saying Redbull’s KERS is weaker than Ferrari and Mercedes’s but is really only a third of them? if it’s true it’s amazing(in terms of their overall performance) and disappointing(in terms of poor engineering and still quite unreliable).

      1. Well the way it was communicated would suggest it’s by design, not circumstance. Sort of harking back to the KERS of Red Bull theory back in Australia. The old weight/aero argument.

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