100 races without a win for Williams (German Grand Prix stats and facts)

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Rubens Barrichello, Williams, Hockenheimring, 2010

While all the attention was elsewhere Williams quietly reached a sad centenary of races without a win.

And while Felipe Massa is yet to win a race in 2010 he has led more laps than team mate Fernando Alonso, who scored his second win.

More stats and facts from the German Grand Prix below.

Fernando Alonso’s 23rd career win means he is now firmly a member of the top ten most prolific winners.

It puts him level on victories with Nelson Piquet and he has one fewer than Juan Manuel Fangio. Alonso reached this mark in his 150th Grand Prix.

With Felipe Massa following him home in second this was Ferrari’s 81st one-two finish.

Sebastian Vettel started from pole position for the third race in a row and the 11th time in his career.

He secured pole by just two thousandths of a second over Alonso. The last time pole position was won by a similarly small gap was when Kimi R??ikk??nen beat Michael Schumacher in qualifying at Monza in 2006 by the same margin. Coincidentally, that was also R??ikk??nen’s 11th pole position.

Vettel also set the fastest lap, his fifth, meaning he has as many as Giuseppe Farina, Carlos Pace, Jody Scheckter, Didier Pironi, John Watson, Michele Alboreto, Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton. This was also the tenth fastest lap for Red Bull.

Williams reached a depressing milestone: they have now appeared at 100 F1 race weekends since their last victory. They didn’t start one of those races, which was the 2005 United States Grand Prix. Their last win came at Interlagos in 2004, courtesy of Juan Pablo Montoya.

Adrian Sutil failed to finish in the points having scored in the last six races.

Sakon Yamamoto became the first driver to use two different numbers in one season while driving for the same team since Ricardo Zonta with Toyota in 2004.

Laps led

Massa led a race for the the first time this year. Interestingly, he’s led more laps than his team mate. Unusually, Red Bull didn’t lead a single lap of this race.

DriverLaps led
Mark Webber259
Sebastian Vettel174
Jenson Button82
Lewis Hamilton56
Felipe Massa40
Fernando Alonso39
Nico Rosberg16
Sebastien Buemi1

Times started ahead of team mate

Robert Kubica extended his qualifying domination at Renault to 11 races.

PosDriverTimes out-qualified team mate
1Robert Kubica11
2Timo Glock10
3Sebastien Buemi9
3Adrian Sutil9
3Nico Rosberg9
6Rubens Barrichello8
6Fernando Alonso8
8Lewis Hamilton7
8Bruno Senna7
10Pedro de la Rosa6
10Jarno Trulli6
10Sebastian Vettel6
13Mark Webber5
13Heikki Kovalainen5
13Kamui Kobayashi5
16Karun Chandhok4
16Jenson Button4
18Felipe Massa3
19Nico H???lkenberg2
19Michael Schumacher2
19Vitantonio Liuzzi2
19Jaime Alguersuari2
23Lucas di Grassi1
24Vitaly Petrov0
24Sakon Yamamoto0

Laps completed

Massa has the most mileage.

PosDriverLaps completed
1Felipe Massa666
2Nico Rosberg665
2Lewis Hamilton665
2Fernando Alonso665
5Jaime Alguersuari656
6Robert Kubica633
7Michael Schumacher618
7Mark Webber618
9Adrian Sutil615
9Sebastian Vettel615
11Rubens Barrichello614
12Jenson Button591
13Vitantonio Liuzzi561
14Vitaly Petrov548
15Nico H???lkenberg516
16Karun Chandhok479
17Heikki Kovalainen478
18Sebastien Buemi457
19Jarno Trulli437
20Timo Glock417
21Lucas di Grassi411
22Pedro de la Rosa372
23Bruno Senna362
24Kamui Kobayashi344
25Sakon Yamamoto69

Retirements

Does not include drivers who retired from races but were still classified (e.g. Lewis Hamilton in Spain and Fernando Alonso in Malaysia).

DriverMechanicalAccidentTotal retirements
Pedro de la Rosa527
Bruno Senna516
Timo Glock516
Lucas di Grassi516
Kamui Kobayashi336
Jarno Trulli505
Heikki Kovalainen325
Sebastien Buemi134
Vitaly Petrov213
Nico H???lkenberg123
Sebastian Vettel112
Vitantonio Liuzzi112
Karun Chandhok022
Jenson Button101
Michael Schumacher101
Rubens Barrichello101
Robert Kubica101
Adrian Sutil101
Jaime Alguersuari101
Sakon Yamamoto101
Mark Webber011
Lewis Hamilton000
Nico Rosberg000
Felipe Massa000
Fernando Alonso000

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71 comments on “100 races without a win for Williams (German Grand Prix stats and facts)”

  1. If you use the 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 system on Hamilton’s 2010 results, he has 65 at this point, this is more than he had at hte end of round 11 than he had in his title year, in 2008 Hamilton at scored 62.

    However if you use the new 25,18,15….. system on Hamilton’s 2008 results, he had 154 points at this stage, more than he currently has just now, which is 147.

    If you use 25,18,15…. until round 12 of the 2008 season Hamilton would have 172 points, so a win at Hungary this year would mean his 2010 total to the end of round 12 would be the same as his 2008 total when using the latest point system, 172!

  2. Nico Hulkenberg set the fastest pitstop of the year at 2.8 seconds.

    1. I had a dream last night that Hulkenberg won the Hungarian GP with BAR coming in 2nd! it was a wet race too. weird.

    2. first time in a while that a driver has pulled the fire switch instead of his brake bias and turned his own engine off?

      lol yamamoto.

    3. Where’d you find that? Is there a list of published standing pit stop times somewhere?

      1. No, it was simply shown in the coverage, and I know that Webber had the previous best at 3.2.

        Pre-season Williams PR tweeted that they had started being able to do sub-3 seconds stops, but this is certainly the first time this year we have seen one in a race.

        1. I thought Mercedes had had one at some point too.

  3. If Button had won either in Turkey or Canada (with Hamilton 2nd) and other results remained the same the lead of championship would be tied on 150 points!

  4. It is sad to see 100 races without victory for one of the finest men in the history of F1. Williams are one team I would like to see at the front again.

    1. Roger Carballo AKA Architrion
      26th July 2010, 11:14

      it hurts me so much… Williams was the team I rooted while the Sennas and Prost camped at the dominant McLaren of the final 80’s. Maybe it’s my natural instinct to support less winner teams, you know, hate the powerful. I’ve always found a real link between Williams and what Formula 1 means as a sport.

      Please, Frank and Patrick…. We know you aren’t the resource hog that McLaren is, but, keep improving and kick the ass of the dominant teams.

  5. Another very sad statistic, Williams going without a win for 100 GPs now.

    Another interesting one would be the amount of Ferrari 1-2s where the actual positions were staged. It must be about the tenth since 2000

  6. Craig Woollard
    26th July 2010, 9:32

    This is the first race of the season where a Red Bull has not led (I think)

    1. They didn’t lead in China either.

      1. They did, they had pole so led off the line,,,

        1. Which driver lead a lap is determined at the start/finish line at the end of the lap. At the end of lap 1 Alonso was leading – so since Red Bull never regained the lead, they lead no laps.

  7. Robert McKay
    26th July 2010, 9:41

    “While all the attention was elsewhere Williams quiet reached a sad centenary of races without a win.”

    I thought this statistic was reported a couple of races ago by various sources. Not saying it’s wrong, just a little confused about the counting.

    1. I remember someone texted in with it to Five Live a few races ago – I’d already spotted it was coming up and made a note of it so I was surprised to hear it a few races early.

      Williams won the last race of 2004. Since then we’ve had 19+18+17+18+17+11=100 races.

      There was another “100th race since…” anniversary last weekend. More on that later…

      1. Robert McKay
        26th July 2010, 10:08

        Ah ok I see, cheers Keith and Electrolite.

      2. It was Red Bull’s 100th race! :D

    2. I think at Valencia they had started their 100th race since their last win. Perhaps at Silverstone it was 100 races since their last win, but after Germany is not counting the 2005 United States Grand Prix?

      1. Perhaps at Silverstone it was 100 races WITHOUT a win, is what I meant. Sorry!

  8. I think you missed one more thing.
    This is the second time Ferrari have robbed a race victory from a driver since 2002 Austrian GP putting the world in SHAME again.

    I do wonder when will Williams the third most successful team in Formula 1 behind Ferrari & Mclaren will win a race again?

    1. That’s not the first time after Austria 2002. It was also in Indianapolis twice, and in Interlagos 2007. So that’s the 4th time since Austria 2002.

      1. In china 08 Kimi let felipe through for second place

        1. Yeah, but that wasn’t for the win. And I think that it wasn’t team orders there, I’ve heard that Kimi let him through by his own decision.

          1. But those were the days when Mclaren and Ferrari didnt allow the viewers to listen to their radio transmissions so it would have been easier to claim that the driver let him through by his own decision.

            However Massa did move aside at his home gp to let Kimi win the WC so maybe Kimi was just returning the favour.

          2. I don’t think that Kimi letting Massa to pass him in 2008 or Massa helping Kimi in 2007 are similar to what happened in Germany 2010 as in both those cases in the past the other driver wasn’t fighting for the championship so that was accepted & those two incident happened at the tail end of the season, but this happened in the middle of the season.

          3. That’s what Massa and the team claim happened now too pal. You can’t believe what you hear, especially in F1.

  9. in the table of retirements didn’t Hamilton retire when he got a puncture or lost a wheel or something on the last couple of laps? I think he was in 2nd at the time, can’t remember which race (sorry!).

    Or was he still classified so it doesn’t count as a retirement?

    1. It was in Spain. The table does not include retirements where a driver was still a classified finisher – Hamilton was, because he crashed 2 laps from the end and was classified.

      1. Okay, thanks!

        *something irrelevant to make comment longer*

  10. Wasn’t this Red Bull’s 100th grand prix, or are they not counting Indianapolis 2005.

    1. Much like the Williams stat, it’s the 100th race they’ve been at and the 99th they’ve started. I’d expect them to mark it in Hungary.

      1. Que the custumory Special Helmet from Vettel!

        1. This is beside the point, but you guys would have noticed Button switch to an Arai helmet.

          Vettel’s special helmet looked awesome!

  11. Just found this on a Nico Hulkenberg Q&A:

    “Q: Some time ago you demanded more developments from the team. Are you satisfied now?
    NH: Well, it wasn’t that we hadn’t brought updates to races, but they somehow never delivered what we wanted or what we believed would happen from the wind-tunnel data. But since Turkey everything we have put on the car works better.”

    Slightly different view than Sam Michael telling us the new updates worked as expected every race.

    1. Maybe Michael was referring to the aero performance, not necessarily the feel of the car which the drivers often comment on.

  12. I think Williams will win a Race this year….

    1. Williams are a great team who lead by example. Everyone in the paddock knows the rules of Sir Frank on drivers and sponsors. Ask Ron Dennis, he stole from them the most :P (so much so for gentlemanly behaviour). Being whiter than white apart, they are also known for their technical innovations (under direction of Head) which they brought and won countless driver’s and teams championship. If you look back at it, one team that suffered the most when Michelin left is team Williams. Hopefully with new tyres to follow and newer engines which come a little later, there might be a turn of luck for them. I really do wish the best for Sir Frank and his team.

      1. @ Rahim RG

        I don’t think that will happen,though that car is improving a lot since the start of the season but I still don’t believe that it is a race winning machine, but if they carry both the driver in 2011 & use Barrichello experience to build a good car then they may win in 2011.

  13. alonso 8 times outqualified team mate, noone talking about that?

    he has done it more times then anybody in the top 4 teams

    1. He’s the only Driver in the top 4 teams who has a team mate who is recovering from a life threatening injury and might not have been performing at 100% for the first half of the year. Give Massa a chance !

    2. Surely Mercedes or Renault is the other top 4 team, and Rosberg and Kubica have both outqualified their teammate more often.

    3. Of the top 4 teams, Rosberg has outqualified Schumi 9 times,

      and *if* you include Renault (technically the fifth best team this year), Kubica has an unbeaten record against his teammate so far this season.

      see http://bit.ly/9J5LyT or http://www.vivaf1.com/performance.php and click on team mates

  14. This season is proving incredibly even in terms of win distribution. Webber has won 3 races, while the other four title contenders have now all won 2 apiece.

    When was the last time 5 drivers had a realistic shot at winning the title? Back in the 80’s perhaps?

    1. Craig Woollard
      26th July 2010, 16:02

      1982 I think, where throughout the season, 11 different drivers won a race, no driver more than twice!

    2. Yer, one of my freinds is convinced as long as different people keep winning grands prix week in week out that Button will win the title through consistancy. Have to say I think he may be right, it’s going to be fascinating to watch though, just imagine a 5 way title fight at the final race

      1. The only problem with that logic is that if it’s still a 5-way fight going to Abu Dhabi, then Button would have to win to clinch it, and with the title on the line you can bet that Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, and Webber would ALL have something to say about that on the track.

  15. The comparison with Monza 2006 is interesting indeed. It was also the Ferrari starting 2nd who won back then (Michael Schumacher).
    And there was also a contoversy involving Fernando Alonso: He was penalised for impeding a competitor in qualifying; afterwards he didn’t consider F1 a sport anymore.
    And, yes, the competitor was Felipe Massa.

  16. I think this is the first time that THREE teams have scored atleast 2 1-2 finishes in a single season.

  17. Can’t think of any facts of real interest, but on a personal note, it was the first time in the four years I’ve been visiting this site I’ve ever rated a race 1/10.

    1. That’s really true even the 2008 European GP & this years Bahrain GP was better.

  18. I heard that this was Ferrari’s 19th victory in the German Grand Prix, extending this superlative of one team winning a country’s grandprix—and a factoid that must have surely stung in Stuttgart after watching their cars flounder hopelessly in Hockenheim.

    1. On SPEED they said it was their 20th, which is more wins for any constructor in a single Grand Prix.

      1. see down the bottom of the page here, http://www.chicanef1.com/indiv.pl?name=German%20GP&type=O

        Ferrari have 19 wins listed, but don’t have 2010 data put up yet, so 20 wins for Ferrari at German GP.

  19. Felipe Massa has now been on podium for the last 5 German Grand Prix. 2nd – 2006, 2nd – 2007, 3rd – 2008, 3rd – 2009, 2nd – 2010.

    The only other active driver-race pairing which has achieved a similar feat is Michael Schumacher on Indianapolis. He has 7 podiums from 2000 – 2006.

    1. Indianapolis isn’t an active race.

      1. hmm yeah, my bad!!

        But even Felipe hasn’t achieved this milestone on the same circuit. The last 5 German Grand Prix are alternated between Nurburgring and Hockenheimring. He has 5 podiums only on races named as “German GP”.

        I wonder if Senna / Prost have achieved a string of more than 7 though. Seems unlikely, given that reliability was so bad in those times.

        1. Prost finished on the podium at the French GP for 8 consecutive appearances, or 8 times in 9 years given that he didn’t race in 1992.
          1985: 3rd
          1986: 2nd
          1987: 3rd
          1988-90: 1st
          1991: 2nd
          1993: 1st

          He also finished 1st there in 1981, 2nd in 1982 and 1st again in 1983. The only blips were during his first year in 1980, when he retired, and 1984, when he finished 7th.

          A remarkable record.

  20. Maybe add in a ‘Times Finished Ahead’ to go with the ‘Times Started Ahead’?

    1. I like this suggestion.

  21. Ayrton won 6 times at Monaco including five consequtive wins between 1989 and 1993, He has 8 podium finishes in 10 starts.

    1. Ayrton won 6 times at Monaco including five consecutive wins between 1989 and 1993, He has 8 podium finishes in 10 starts.

  22. When was the last time a driver managed to start the race with the pit limeter on? Or, when was the last time someone accidentally turned the engine off when going for the break bias lever. Or even better when was the last time it happened to the same driver in a race? I guess never? ahem*yamamoto*ahem

    pretty fail.

    1. Haha! So that’s what happened to him :D

      1. Yeah, according to Anthony Davidsons twitter….

        “For anyone wondering how Yam’s race ended, he accidentally pulled the fire switch instead of his brake bias causing the engine to turn off!”

        And Lucas Di Grassi also said, via the Virgin twitter…

        “Lucas says he was laughing at the start – because YAM started with the pitlane limiter on :-)”

        1. OK,so how many will remember this embarrassing incident?

          Question>Which team left their car and driver still on a jack at the race start.

          1. I seem to remember Williams doing it to Ralf once, maybe at spa?

        2. Hmmm. Wonder who will be in the two HRTs this weekend.

  23. Williams has always been a much loved team,and I am glad that Reubens is staying with them for another season.I am sure Williams will rise again,just like the Phoenix,they have been consistent lately,and last weekend was just a blip.We are all with you Frank and team.:)

  24. Paul Gilbert
    26th July 2010, 23:20

    This is the second time that an Alonso win has been aided by his Brazilian team-mate obeying ‘race-fixing’ orders.

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